Presidential campaign and candidates

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:33 am

The problems I have with Obama is that he's a better actor than speaker/debater. He's fine when it's all wrote out ahead of time, but he stutters, stammers, hems and haws, and has difficulty answering off the cuff during unscripted debates.

He might have a Harvard ed, but he thinks there are 57 continugous states, and that Kentucky is 'far removed' from Illinois, while 'Arkansas is much nearer' -- at least, that's what I remember him saying. He doesn't seem to realize that Illinois borders Ky, and Arkansas does not border Ky. And Ky is not a state.

He has an elitest attitude to the white working class; that is very evident, and one of the main reasons I don't like him.

After stating he was 'honest', he's flip-flopped so many times, and lied so many times (ordinarily, I wounldn't bother with this aspect, but he keeps insisting that's he's not like the other candidates. At this point, I agree; he's far worse.) He promised one thing to the Jewish people, and promised exactly the opposite to the Palistine people. He won't back Israel; he won't defend America. He thinks terrorrists should have the same rights as American citizens.

So far, he's said nothing I can agree with.

As for the family speech -- heard it all before from Bill Cosby, who was a lot more believable saying it.

--Melinda

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:29 am

In the Book of Rule, they say that "a mere fifty years ago over three quarters of the world's population did not have the right to vote to determine their manner of government." They go on to say that today the predominant system of rule is democracy, although it takes many forms.

Just a few great quotes in this book:

"The ills of the human race will never disappear until by God's gift those who are sincere and true lovers of wisdom attain political power." Plato

"What luck for rulers that men do not think." Hitler

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." Thomas Jefferson

This book is a beautiful Dorling Kindersley book and explains the systems of government of all the 193 countries of the world, another number that has increased greatly since the beginning of the 20th century when there were only 80 countries.

Carol
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Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:01 am

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:25 pm

We need a peresident who'll put the interest of the United States ahead of Israel. We should be supporting ourselves, not some tiny sliver of land in the middle east and we need a president who'll take steps to get us out of this Iraq mess. We don't need to spend another 100 years and tens of trillions of dollars on this insanity called Iraq.

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:55 pm

Obama won't to that, in my opinion; neither will McCain. Israel is the only real ally we have in the Middle East; if they go, we will be much worse off (if that's possible).

No one will. It will take the American people together to do that; but we're too busy arguing amongst ourselves.

None of these candidates are capable of solving the situation we're n now. It will take soemone who puts American people first and foremost, and find a way to over rule the fools who want their own country to be weak and dependant.

Unfortunately, I don't know who that person would be.

but I know who it isn't.

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:57 pm

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:47 pm

On a long-ago day I was standing guard at the main gate of a camp in England. A British woman walked up and started asking questions. I couldn't understand a word she was saying so after a couple of uncomfortable minutes I yelled, "Sergeant of the guard, post number one!" He came running to see what the trouble might be. He couldn't understand her any better than I had.
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Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:12 pm

and they probably have trouble understanding someone from Brooklyn

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:21 pm

We have become the United States of Israel. It is the tail wagging the dog. Even the politicians must promise their support if they intend to get elected. Intimidation is at its height at election time. It is political suicide for any candidate to speak the truth about the cause of the problems. Only Jimmy Carter had the courage to do that since he is no longer seeking office.
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Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:27 pm

Carter!? oh my. The traitor, in my eyes.

and, no; I'm not Jewish.

I respectfully disagree with you, as you have he right to believe as you will. I just hope we can manage to keep those rights.

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:55 pm

If you had witnessed what I did you would change your tune. The history of the Middle East struggle is available. What we hear is what is programmed for us to hear. Who do you think controls the progamming?
I saw atrocities committed by Israel that Israel blatantly denied.
You can believe what you want. I will believe what I saw and what I know to be true. As for Mr. Carter, he is an honest man. He has no reason to lie. He is the most knowledgeable of any politician of the Middle East issues and he can be believed.
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Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:25 pm

As I said, believe what you like.

I will now bow out of this thread.

Have fun, all Cool

--Melinda

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:40 pm

Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:02 am

Here is an unbiased webssite that will provide insight to the cause and the problems:
http://www.israelpalestinianprocon.org/
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Subject: Re: Presidential campaign and candidates Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:14 am

I think Israel is our ally because they can count on us to come to their defense no matter what the cost to ourselves. Evil or Very Mad

If we stopped supporting Israel, most of the other middle eastern countries would likely have a more favorible view of us. With Washington's dedication to the militaristic theocracy of Israel, I wonder how long it'll be until they start flying the Israeli flag above the American one.